( shouting ) ( gunfire ) >> this is one of the great paradoxes of the war. what the military commanders will tell you is, "look, things are going to get worse before they get better." and so, right now they're worse, because we're going into places where we haven't... literally haven't been in years. we're killing, capturing people that, until now, you know, for years have been enjoying safe havens, freedom of movement, and suddenly that's not possible anymore. i think, at some point-- and this is the big "if"-- the curve is supposed to go down, the curve of violence. that hasn't happened yet. >> narrator: but the us military points to signs of progress in some parts of afghanistan. they say that the kill/capture campaign is pushing taliban foot soldiers to defect from the insurgency, a process known as reintegration.